Direct mount antenna bad idea?

descartes
Tue, 03 Feb 2026 23:08:21 +0000

stevencellist:

We are all really starting to lose our collective skills of evaluating data..

Not all of us.

BombayBill:

It was able to chart hundreds of data points faster than me. So in my opinion it’s a useful tool. My building a spreadsheet to tease out a trend is subject to the likelihood I’ll introduce some errors or typos

If you have a data set and import it in to a spreadsheet, it can chart any number of data points much faster at a significant lower environmental cost than anything else. You don’t have to type in the data, so no typos.

These tools look like they can help, but they are working in mysterious ways. Charting is fairly simple but if AI can’t explain the results, I’m seeing a trend where people assume that it is beyond explanation. Or the application of the scientific method - come up with a hypothesis, test it, review results.

In this case, as you are in a non-typical environment, some investment is indicated, as I, @pe1mew and yourself have mentioned, in trying ‘stuff’ out.

So even if you see improved results by moving the antenna away from the case, it may be worth trying at tree top height.

With regard to the units being inside the bins, any chance the manufacturers can put some form of case on the outside? Alternatively, look at BLE on the inside with a receiver that relays via LW, I find BLE works through fairly dense materials. Or an encapsulated BLE sensor on the outside. If it does get knocked off, eaten or damaged, they are less expensive that a LW device.